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Tag counting

Postby viokast/yahoo_gr » Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:57 am

Hello all,
please inform me on the the way Aggregate counts the used tags, see examples bellow:

In the case of a modbus device,
we can request a reply of a Holding register, type = 2-byte Int. Unsigned (offset=100), size = 5.
Is this count as 1 tag or 5 tags?

Or, as a Holding register, type = 8-byte Int. Signed (offset=100), size=1
Is this count as 1 tag or 4 tags?

Or, as a Holding register, type = char (offset=100)
which according to your manual is 64-characters length
How many tags is counted for this element?

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Re: Tag counting

Postby viokast/yahoo_gr » Thu Feb 09, 2017 12:16 pm

Also, is there any information on the used or stil available tags
on the installed / licensed software?

Where I can find it?

Is it in an form of an element that can be displayed at runtime ?

Please inform.
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Re: Tag counting

Postby anton_logoyskiy/tibbo_com » Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:31 pm

Hi Nikolas,

In the case of a modbus device,
we can request a reply of a Holding register, type = 2-byte Int. Unsigned (offset=100), size = 5.
Is this count as 1 tag or 5 tags?

Or, as a Holding register, type = 8-byte Int. Signed (offset=100), size=1
Is this count as 1 tag or 4 tags?

Or, as a Holding register, type = char (offset=100)
which according to your manual is 64-characters length
How many tags is counted for this element? 1 tag

Also, is there any information on the used or stil available tags
on the installed / licensed software?
Where I can find it?

Please inspect context menu of your server - View Server Information - License Information (Working for 5.4 version).

Is it in an form of an element that can be displayed at runtime ?
Yes you can get information from license variable of server's context.

BR/Anton Logoyskiy
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Re: Tag counting

Postby linktosite_suppliers/gmail_com » Wed Aug 16, 2017 5:20 pm

Hello all.
I have SCADA Standard license, 200 tags, 5.41.13.
I noticed that as soon as I add a device - the server immediately add 38 variables (server information >license information >plugin groups>variable count...).
Modbus Registers - As in the previous answer.

1.Wht are they used for ?

2. Are those 38 .. detracting from my license amount?

3. Is it worthwhile and possible to delete them?

thanks...
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Re: Tag counting

Postby sergey_eritsyan/tibbo_com » Tue Sep 05, 2017 2:24 pm

Hi!

Is there any preinstalled regiters in your modbus device? Or this device is clear and doesn't have any settings?
In the second case please write name of this device we will try to reproduce this issue.
If we confirm it, we will fix this issue in the next SW version.

Best regards, Sergey.
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Re: Tag counting

Postby linktosite_suppliers/gmail_com » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:01 am

Hi..

Sorry for being delayed..

Now, I added 4 new devices ... so my problem become urgent!!

As detailed befor: I have SCADA Standard license, 200 tags, 5.41.13.
In evry "Add Device" - the server immediately add 38 variables in license variable count.

Regarding your question:
The physical device (Unitronics Vision350 plc) is new and clear.
"Add Device" action is manualy set (not importing properties from backup file)
(Regarding to device regirster count - exactly as Anton Logoyskiy reply)

The situation is:
6 modbus devices with 2 register line in each one are "Tag count" as 6*38 + 6*2 = 240 variable insted of 12 variable.

My maine concern is being block by license limit...

Thank in advanced for fast solution..

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Re: Tag counting

Postby sergey_eritsyan/tibbo_com » Mon Nov 20, 2017 2:29 pm

Hello!

Please open Device settings and enter Generic Properties Tab.
There you will see field Active Variables, fill it with "Only Selected" value. After that open MetaData tab and select necessary variables. You will see decreasing of tags count.
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Re: Tag counting

Postby linktosite_suppliers/gmail_com » Wed Nov 22, 2017 3:03 pm

Thank for your reply...
It dosen't work.
All: metadata Reading mode and Active Entities - possible combination had no effect on variables count. Only uncheck "Active" checkbox in variable line in MetaData tab decreased 1 variables count from license count. (after each device settings change I refreshed main server root tree)

Please … maybe another solution..
Thanks…
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